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October 20, 2009

Database for dangerous dogs?

Filed under: Legal — rpolsky @ 4:44 pm

Richard,
I had a quick question for you.

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I am a GIS analyst that puts together a lot of spatial databases and I came across your name on your website you maintain.

Do you know of anyone compiling a Dog Bite Database to show where risky dogs live?

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I have always thought this would be a good database to show the areas on a map in certain neighborhoods.

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Thank you for your time

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Dr. Polsky’s response:

Deric,

Thank you very much for your inquiry. I know of no database that tracks supposedly dangerous or risky dogs anywhere in the USA. however, one may have started in the state of Virginia, after a dog bite fatality that took place in Spotsville approximately 3 years ago. I also read somewhere that the state of California was trying to do something similar to this, but I did not know whether or not anything has come of it.

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There probably would be difficulty with doing this with so-called risky dogs because how do you define a “risky” dog? Probably the best way to do this would be to get a database on dogs who have been reported to local animal control authorities for attacking people within each municipality (not necessarily a vicious attack), but getting these records from local animal control probably would be difficult.

I will post your query on my blog, however, because there may be someone else out there who knows more than I do about existing databases for dangerous dogs.

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Sincerely

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Certified applied animal behaviorist

October 5, 2009

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Filed under: Uncategorized — rpolsky @ 9:59 pm

Q. I read your writings. I found them quite informative. I am guessing that you are against any BSL as am I. However, we differ on a couple of things. I truly believe that any sign of aggressive behavior is a warning that worse things can and may happen. You seem to say it won’t. Is that truly your standing? You say that Knoller was simply unable to stop the dog, bless her heart, she is just a small woman up against a large dog. I definitely think that is total BS.

I am only 5 feet tall. I am also quite disabled with cervical and thoracic DDD. My daughters 110 pound rottweiler went after a 5 year old child in a frenzy, thankfully he was on a chain but he was still quite frenzied and she was only inches from him after he knocked her down, he was oblivious to my screams, I physically pulled him off and threw him to the ground.

I saw the pictures of the hallway. There were cans from the groceries, there was a large jar of Pace Picante sauce, Knoller couldhave grabbed any as a weapon and beat the dog in the head, he would have stopped, or his head crushed but she didn’t.

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I heard her tale that he jumped up on the lady at her door, but the whole hallway looked like a bloodbath. Had the dog jumped on her at her door and Knoller covered her with her own body as she said NUMEROUS times, then why is the whole hall bloodied? Basket Case hd The Time Machine divx Reservoir Dogs dvdrip

Team America: World Police ipod Bane and Hera both warned Knoller and Noel with their behavior. It does not take a one eyed moron to know that a growling lunging dog is aggression, aggression leads to viciousness, and viciousness leads to much worse. There were NO consequences for the dog in any of the prior incidents, no training, not even a pinch collar which is a must if you cannot control a dog.

You are supposed to be a behavior expert, you above all others should know that if an animal has no control of its behavior, it thinks it is ok. Someone has to put on some brakes. No one did which is why an incident of this type not only was possible but should have been predicted. Any dog be it chihuahua or Pressa canario can lose it for no apparent reason.

These people had the audacity to try and blame the victim!! Of course we should not be allowed to wear perfume . These people showed their true colors in their behavior which was recorded several times. You can downplay the bestiality as you have reported it as just her genital area being explored. But I am 50 and have had dogs all my life and my crotch has never been explored while I was naked. But if there is more that you know nothing about and Knoller had been mounted by Bane, it is no wonder, she had no control and why he became more aggressive.

I would hope you would quit trying to help these kinds of people and start helping the dogs, by placing the blame right where it belongs, on the head of the human who has abstract thinking as well as a higher level of thought processes and communication processes. Then maybe the dogs have a chance.

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Dr. Polsky’s answer:

This was a case about second degree murder and not whether the dog in question, Bane, would predictably attack a person. There is no question that Bane was aggressive and dangerous by nature, and this should have been known by Knoller, and that an attack on a human would be foreseeable, but the central question in this case was whether Knoller could have reasonably foreseen that Bane would kill a person.

If one looks at the epidemiological and animal behavior literature, human fatalities never happen in the presence of an owner, which is what happened here, and this was acknowledged by the animal behavior expert for the prosecutionat the time of trial, but apparently this was not fully processed by the jury (Knoller at trial was conviced of 2nd degree murder based on implied malice).

It is also important to note, that during the attack Bane was likely in a highly aggressive motivational state, and given his size and strength, and given the lack of physical prowess of Knoller, the benefit of doubt should be given to Knoller who repeatedly said she was unable to stop the attack or control the dog, after the attack began. For example, when pit bulls enter into a state of aggressive frenzy during their attack on a human, frequently the only way to stop the attack is with gunshot.

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The bestiality claims made by the prosecution were extremely flammatory, and whether they were true or not, was immaterial because they did not have much to do with the legal questions facing the jurors: second degree murder based on implied malice, or manslaughter. Therefore, presentation of evidence about bestiality was not allowed at the time of trial.

For those who’ve been following the case, after much legal wrangling, which included the case being heard before the California Supreme Court, Knoller’s second-degree murder charge was reinstated in 2009 on the belief that Knoller let the attack continue without making a serious attempt to stop it. Apparently, the basis for this was that Knoller left the scene of the incident to go look for her keys, and she did not immediately telephone for help. Apparently the judge making this decision felt the actions of Knoller were sufficiently callous after the attack started to justify conviction of second-degree murder based on implied malice.

September 2, 2009

Fatal attacks by packs of dogs

Filed under: Dog Behavior — rpolsky @ 3:27 pm

The recent fatalities of two elderly people in Georgia underscore the potential danger packs of dogs present to the public.

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In this August 2009 instance, approximately a dozen dogs  were roaming in a rural part of northern Georgia, and encountered an elderly lady who the dogs attacked and killed. Shortly thereafter, her husband, a retired professor at the University of Georgia, went looking for her, he then encountered the dogs and likewise was mauled to death

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What is it going to take for local public health authorities and animal control agencies to wake up and realize this clear and present danger? The danger packs of dogs present to the public has long been known, and was previously documented in a report by several animal behaviorists, appearing in the  academic journal, Public Health Reports in 1983.  Since this report over 25 years ago, dog maulings by packs of dogs  have occasionally occurred, and in the last two years people have been killed in this fashion on at least three occasions  (in California and Texas).

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Obviously, local municipalities need to become more focused on the danger packs of dogs present to the public, and act accordingly. Unfortunately, most local animal control organizations in the United States lack the manpower and training to act meaningfully. In Los Angeles, I have seen no concrete steps taken by the Department of animal services to deal with the problem of packs of stray dogs. Given this  state of affairs, children, particularly  in rural areas, need to be cautioned about this public safety hazard, and adults rather than feeding  packs of stray dogs (as was the case in the Georgia incident), need to  persisted in their complaint about their presence to local animal control authorities. If local municipalities fail to act, then legal action needs to be taken to force meaningful action.

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Filed under: Legal — admin @ 2:35 am

Unbreakable move End of Days Time Bandits psp A recent trial in Houston in August 2009 ended in a guilty verdict for the defendant, accused of cutting off the genitals of her 5 week-old  son.

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Her  principal defense - blame the dog!  - a 7 lb. miniature dachshund named Shorty!

The defendant,  27 year-old Katie Nadal, claims to have been sleeping when the incident happened, but prosecutors say that she was awake and loaded up with cocaine and other drugs. The defendant had a history of drug abuse.

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The only defense witness was a veterinary behaviorist who testified that it was possible for  Shorty to engage in this act. According to this animal behavior expert: “The dog was initially attracted by the odor of the feces and then he may have started licking or biting at the genitals and as the tissue became injured the dog would have started pulling, it would have turned its jaws sideways and severed it off with its molars.”

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A very strange explanation indeed, by supposedly a well-trained and competent animal behaviorist. This author feels her explanation was no more than junk science, and as a professional animal behaviorist and testifying animal behavior expert, I am embarrassed and shocked that testimony of this kind could be proffered. It reflects poorly on the science of animal behavior as applied to companion dogs.

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I know of no published reports, or any  kind of other evidence  that would suggest a dog  could engage in sustained, intentional genital mutilation of a human.  I strongly feel that  her testimony was a disgrace and not reflective of the  potential value  of science of animal behavior has in forensic matters.

Prosecution experts testified that the injury was inconsistent with a dog bite because of the straight edges to the wound in the genital area. Note that the defense attorney showed the jury photographs of other dog bites with straight edges, but as an dog bite expert I have never seen a dog bite wounds  with relatively straight lines. Accordingly, the jury agreed: the defendant was sentenced to 99 years in jail.

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March 14, 2009

Blunt injury in dog bite cases

Filed under: Dog Behavior — admin @ 10:40 pm

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A study published in the Journal of Pediatric Surgery (2001,36,1115- 1117) strongly recommends that blunt injury from dog bites, frequently not visable or apparent, in addition to more typical, visible, penetrating type of bite lacerations and puncture wounds, should not be ignored because such injuries can be extremely devastating.

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Thirty-five patients were studied, all children with a mean age of 5 years from the Denver’s Children Hospital. All were hospitalized because of life-threatening dog bites. From the population of 35, 17% sustained blunt injury that was life-threatening. Blunt injury consisted of vascular damage, neurological damage, crush injuries to the skull, and chest wall destruction.

The authors make recommendations for dog bite prevention such as public education directed towards children and parents, animal control at the community level, strict penalties for chronically irresponsible dog owners, and respect for common sense rules.

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Frequently in dog bites cases, penetrating laceration injury occurs without accompanying blunt injury, but even in the absence of obvious wounds, blunt injury might occur, and for treatment purposes this needs to be attended to by physicians, and in personal injury lawsuits this kind of injury, which may not be obvious, should be factored into awards for damages.

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